Blaylock Discussion Forums
General Discussions Topics >> The News >> new Cheeser books

Message started by faere on 13. Apr 2006 at 17:20

Title: new Cheeser books
Post by faere on 13. Apr 2006 at 17:20

when will we ever see a new Cheeser book? i have been to few places (in literature) that take me to such a wonderful place of being than in these books!! there are so many unanswered questions, too! i don't know what it is, but when i read the Elfin Ship so many years ago, i actually longed to be in that world of fun & mystery & cheese (of course). i felt at home--thanks Mr. B!! and thank you for creating Mr. Bing with such goodness of character, that you just wish he were your favorite cousin!!

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Jeff M. on 12. Jul 2006 at 22:23

I posted something similar here years ago (?), probably on the old message board. I honestly can't remember what the response was, if any.

I had the pleasure of re-reading (re,re,re-reading, truth be told. The first time was in the late 80's if I recall correctly) all three of the books over the past couple of weekends. Once again I remember why they're among my favorite books of all time.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by faere on 16. Aug 2006 at 22:53

that's one of my favorite lines in the world, i think! i ended up reading Eragon--it's good for a start up.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by jhagman on 09. Feb 2007 at 03:02

I had the pleasure of running into Tim Powers at a bookstore called Dangerous Visions, this was back in '96. I asked him if Blaylock was going to write any more about "his cheese maker and his dog". Powers responded with "probably when he is an old man". Well that was 11yrs ago, Dangerous Visions is gone, and none of us is getting any younger, so I remain hopeful. This is a fun website!

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by faere on 11. Feb 2007 at 03:48

well---maybe he meant when we were old---possibly too old to actually read & have to wait for some volunteer at the nursing home to read it for us? of course by then he may have passed into Balumnia himself? if you're reading this JPB--have mercy & help us out with a few more in the series--before the nursing home claims us!! just think, everyone wins!

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Silver on 19. Feb 2007 at 22:32

Unfortunately, Blaylock told me that those Cheeser books were sort of youthful endeavors of his, and he doesn't really think he can write more of that type.

As he put it, "he's not the same man he was when he initially wrote those", so he doesn't really plan to write more of them. The water's under the bridge and the world has turned, and he didn't think he could write like that again, even if he wished.

Indeed, his third book in that series, The Stone Giant, came quite a few years after the first two, and it's definitely a bit darker in tone. What's amazing to me was how he made Escargot, who was something of a scalawag, into a sympathetic character, and he made the story light-hearted despite some of the heavier subjects introduced due to the deceitful/irresponsible nature of Escargot's character. It's still different from the first two, I'm sure you must agree, though.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by jhagman on 20. Feb 2007 at 19:40

Actually I think the publisher held onto the book "The Stone Giant" for quite a few years. Back then I was a bookseller for B. Dalton, and we had a resource called "Forthcoming Books", Blaylock had a title listed in it for a long time called "The Road To Balumnia". I showed it to Blaylock during a signing, he said it was being retitled "The Stone Giant". I personally think that as long as Blaylock is a professor at Chapman University we won't see much high fantasy from him, academia just does not produce much in the way of genre fiction, at least not much since Professor Tolkien. Tell Blaylock to put down the Derrida and write!

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Silver on 22. Feb 2007 at 07:37

Au contraire! Blaylock's employment hasn't slowed down his writing. He's written at least two young adult works ("Zeuglodon") about a girl who fancies herself a cryptozoologist, and he was working on a book involving a small town in California and Knights Templar, I believe, when I last spoke with him.

New York publishers have kept declining his YA books - I can't fathom why, since YA has been exploding in the marketplace.

Teaching at university doesn't stop Blaylock from writing -- he's been doing that since the late 70s/80s. Blaylock has the most amazing productivity of nearly anyone I know! He teaches at Chapman and heads up the creative writing program at the Orange County High School for the Arts. He also sometimes donates time building sets for the children's theatre, and keeps up with his family life. Amidst all of this, he still writes.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by kenaldo on 22. Feb 2007 at 23:13

Yes.  I also got word from Mr. Blaylock that the Templar book was in the final stages.  That was a few months ago.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by jhagman on 23. Feb 2007 at 09:41

I agree with you about Blaylock's productivity, but I was writing about content. Most of what he has been  producing can almost be called magico-realism, not high fantasy like his cheeser books. Incidentally, most of the successful young adult fiction genre is also high fantasy, books like Eragon, Inkheart, etc. While teaching part-time at colleges puts demands on writers, being on a tenure track is something completely different. Unless things have changed drastically since I've graduated from college, writing departments just did not take fantasy-science fiction writers seriously, and Blaylock is in the creative writing department. New York Publishers though take fantasy SF writers very seriously because of the huge market. Maybe, as you say Blaylock can't return to his fantasy roots, but those roots are where millions of readers live.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by faere on 24. Feb 2007 at 02:25

Silver-if this is true--it deeply saddends me--especially at a time that I'm particularly stressed out (can't read anything but texts anyway right now). But JH has a point, high fantasy is something i think professors frown upon from other tenured writers.  & the remarkability of this is-YES-high (YA) fantasy is actually for adult-minded folks & YES-it is THE THING right now-particularly for movies. i meant what i said in my 1st post--this is a land of trustibility in JPB's hands, of great humor, goodness, darkness & (cheese of course) but mostly of incredible taste & human appeal. the places we could continue to go in this series are also endless!! i'm still talking about more of Escargot, more of the undersea device trip & more of Jonathan & Dooly, the adventures & life of the Professor have not really been explored & etc!!!! there are certain books that touch you, certain parts of the artist that leave you longing for more. basically it's like a lover or maybe an addictive drug.... ok i've said too much-but there it is & now my hopes are squished---tantamount to squished on the side of the road & unrecognizable as a cat, dog, old mcdonalds bag with greasy fries run over by a diesel truck or just an old dirty shoe.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Mike on 09. Dec 2007 at 18:50

But the Cheeser books, as they're being called, can hardly be categorized as high fantasy.  Sure, there are elves anf goblins and link-men (who I consider to be the Blaylock couterpart to hobbits), but the tone of the books are completely different.  

There's a tongue-in-cheekiness about Blaylock that just goes over the heads of most people.  At least I assume it does, or Blaylock would have a much more prominent name.  I think it would be very difficult to translate these books into blockbuster movies.  

I hesitate to ask for more in the series, although it is my favorite series of fiction ever written.  Blaylock is a different man now, and a different writer.  I would be afraid that he might not be able to recapture the same mood.  Anything less that the originals might taint the whole series, which is currently without flaw.  

Be careful what you ask for...

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by jhagman on 01. Jan 2008 at 03:32

While I agree with Mike about being careful what you wish for, I can say with the authority of Lin Carter, that the Cheeser books are High F
antasy. I am pulling this from memory- but Carter said High Fantasy takes place in a world of the author's sole creation, and it has elements of magic involved in the plot. Lin Carter said the very first modern fantasist was William Morris. High Fantasy in the past has had practicioners who favored humor in telling their stories, James Branch Cabell comes to mind. Now leaving aside this debate, I feel genuinely sorry for writers that can't write with warmth and pathos about cheese, dogs, marbles, toys, pies, a very good pint of ale,,,, and at the same time laugh up their sleeves in an harmless manner at those who take themselves way too seriously. Happy New Year!

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Mike on 23. Jan 2009 at 00:16

High Fantasy it is then...

Who am I to argue with Lin Carter, I don't know who she (he? I hope it's not a he...) is, but regardless, Lin sounds like the person to ask about such things.

The definition sounds pretty solid to me anyway.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Dooly on 08. Jan 2010 at 16:09

I always thought of high fantasy as the serious swords and sorcery stuff, Lord of the Rings, The Belgariad, Shannara etc.

I think the cheeser books are their own brilliant category - some sort of gentle, happy fantasy. Having re-read them just now for the umpteenth time I truely wish Mr. Blaylock would crank out even just one more. The closest I have ever found to the same tone and spirit is "The Face In The Frost" by John Bellairs, which was a one off written way back in 1969.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Tony on 26. Jan 2010 at 18:57

You might want to know that the NESFA press has recently issued a compendium of Bellairs entitled "Magic Mirrors," which includes the fragmentary (about 1/3) text of "Dragon Cross," the previously unpublished sequel to "The Face in the Frost," as well as some other "adult" Bellairs. I agree that "Face" is a wonderful book- it is a great tragedy that Bellairs was diverted by the success of his YA stuff. It is an even greater tragedy that Blaylock is not doing another cheeser-you would think that given the commercial potential of YA fantasy today, some publisher would repackage these books and motivate Blaylock to continue the series. Sigh!

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Tony on 29. Jan 2010 at 18:32

Correction to previous post:  sorry, the "Face in the Frost" sequel is "Dolphin Cross," not "Dragon Cross."

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Hale on 05. Nov 2010 at 20:05

I think Blaylock could easily write a new book about that world - a so- called 'cheeser' book - and I would love to see him try and apparently so would a lot of people.  It would be much different from the first three, but who cares.   I think he'd have fun with it and it would shake him up as a writer and he might come up with something he doesn't expect.          

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by NightRelic on 27. Nov 2010 at 07:28

Lin Carter (a man, actually, whose full first name was Linwood) was perhaps one of the most important figures in fantasy literature. He selected and introduced the Ballantine Adult Fantasy series back in the late 60's/ early 70's. The series brought back into print many fantasy novels that had been out of print for decades and is highly collectible. I can't recommend it enough. Ballantine used the popularity of Tolkien at the time to bring all of these works back into print. The only drawback is the books were poorly produced and the covers tend to fall off. But they had awesome cover art. Carter also wrote novels himself.

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Swancrash on 17. Apr 2011 at 07:56

Thanks for the Bellairs tip.  Hadn't heard of him before, and lo and behold, the book you mention is available for purchase on Kindle, even away over here in South Korea where the bookstores are unlikely to carry my preferred paper edition; Blaylock not such a big seller over here.  As has been mentioned on this subject before: no new Cheeser books?  I'll just read the originals again...happily.  Now to track them down!

Title: Re: new Cheeser books
Post by Swancrash on 08. Jul 2011 at 11:20

I stand a bit corrected regarding the dearth of Blaylock's works in Korea.  I went to a used bookstore in Seoul last weekend and they had a copy of The Last Coin.  Happy surprise.  Someone here reads him.

Blaylock Discussion Forums » Powered by YaBB 2.2!
YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved.